1) Why not use Pykrete? You mention it briefly without describing how it would kick 90% of your lifetime costs away. Have you actually modelled this at all?
2)What is the actual problem you are trying to solve? 'Oppressive Governments' is not an answer. Oppressive governments don't let people build nation-scale structures.
3) There are vast swaths of land you could use instead, at far lower cost
4) Who wants to go and live on a slow-melting environmental disaster with no power, datalinks, waste disposal, water supply, or legal status?
5) no you can't drink the iceberg because you just contaminated it with a city
6) No Starlink is not the answer for datalinks for very obvious reasons
7) Where is the poop going again? This is a complex problem
8) How are people moving there on a daily basis?
9) WHERE IS THE FOOD COMING FROM?
10) OK, you're importing food and exporting poop. Not seeing the arbitrage here.
11) Do you know what a cyclone is?
12) Are you familiar with the laws that govern this sort of thing? You'll need to pick a nation and follow its maritime laws. Really. Yes, you will. Liberia is popular.
13) How are you going to settle disputes? Liberian courts don't really care, so......
14) Poop. You're just dumping it in the ocean. That's probably OK if you're 200nm offshore. But where are you getting power again?
Go and mine some Helium on the Moon. You'll be happier, we'll be happier, and the outcome is the same.
From cargo ships most likely. Or at very large scale, it may be worth it to run food plants which take in bulk ingredients like flour from ships and produce finished products like bread. It is also possible to do aquaculture (again, at large scale)
> 7) Where is the poop going again? This is a complex problem
Sewage treatment is done on the iceberg, most likely with the treated freshwater sent back into the ocean. The remaining solid portion can be heated to over 500 degrees to thoroughly sterilize it and then reused as fertilizer or perhaps just shipped out and sold as a fertilizer ingredient. But really, this is going to be the same as any other city so I don't see why you are making an issue of it?
iceberg is cool, but i suggest to use it as the source of cooling and fresh water, and use concrete floating platform around it for living, its true, concrete ship used to be very popular, and thus, its better to build technology to build a bio mining tech for processing those shellfish and use the shell from them making those as the building material, because most of them were just CaCO3
You cannot use an iceberg for cooling in the long-term, because it will melt. Also, that wouldn't really be efficient. If you want to cool something down, you can use a refrigerator. For high-volume cooling, you can use deep ocean water from about 1000 meters down.
You should read my posts about this, you have a very distorted idea of how things work.
1) Why not use Pykrete? You mention it briefly without describing how it would kick 90% of your lifetime costs away. Have you actually modelled this at all?
2)What is the actual problem you are trying to solve? 'Oppressive Governments' is not an answer. Oppressive governments don't let people build nation-scale structures.
3) There are vast swaths of land you could use instead, at far lower cost
4) Who wants to go and live on a slow-melting environmental disaster with no power, datalinks, waste disposal, water supply, or legal status?
5) no you can't drink the iceberg because you just contaminated it with a city
6) No Starlink is not the answer for datalinks for very obvious reasons
7) Where is the poop going again? This is a complex problem
8) How are people moving there on a daily basis?
9) WHERE IS THE FOOD COMING FROM?
10) OK, you're importing food and exporting poop. Not seeing the arbitrage here.
11) Do you know what a cyclone is?
12) Are you familiar with the laws that govern this sort of thing? You'll need to pick a nation and follow its maritime laws. Really. Yes, you will. Liberia is popular.
13) How are you going to settle disputes? Liberian courts don't really care, so......
14) Poop. You're just dumping it in the ocean. That's probably OK if you're 200nm offshore. But where are you getting power again?
Go and mine some Helium on the Moon. You'll be happier, we'll be happier, and the outcome is the same.
> 14) Poop.
You seem obsessed with this for some reason. It's no different to sewage treatment onshore and I don't understand why you think there is a difference?
> 11) Do you know what a cyclone is?
There are regions of the seas (near the equator and in certain parts of the ocean that simply don't have them.
But a large iceberg is going to be weather-proof anyway.
> 9) WHERE IS THE FOOD COMING FROM?
From cargo ships most likely. Or at very large scale, it may be worth it to run food plants which take in bulk ingredients like flour from ships and produce finished products like bread. It is also possible to do aquaculture (again, at large scale)
> 8) How are people moving there on a daily basis?
on an airplane. But why do you say daily? This is a permanent residence!
> 7) Where is the poop going again? This is a complex problem
Sewage treatment is done on the iceberg, most likely with the treated freshwater sent back into the ocean. The remaining solid portion can be heated to over 500 degrees to thoroughly sterilize it and then reused as fertilizer or perhaps just shipped out and sold as a fertilizer ingredient. But really, this is going to be the same as any other city so I don't see why you are making an issue of it?
https://www.epa.gov/biosolids/basic-information-about-biosolids
> 6) No Starlink is not the answer for datalinks for very obvious reasons
sorry, it is not obvious to me, please spell it out
> 5) no you can't drink the iceberg
There is no mention of "drinking" the iceberg, where did you get this idea from?
> 3) There are vast swaths of land you could use instead, at far lower cost
see the section 'Why Not Build On Land Instead?' in the original post.
> 4) Who wants to go and live on a slow-melting environmental disaster with no power, datalinks, waste disposal, water supply, or legal status?
It will not melt, and it will have power, data, waste etc. I don't know where you got the idea that it wouldn't have those?
> 1) ... You mention it briefly without describing how it would kick 90% of your lifetime costs away. Have you actually modelled this at all?
yes, this is the executive summary though.
iceberg is cool, but i suggest to use it as the source of cooling and fresh water, and use concrete floating platform around it for living, its true, concrete ship used to be very popular, and thus, its better to build technology to build a bio mining tech for processing those shellfish and use the shell from them making those as the building material, because most of them were just CaCO3
> use concrete floating platform
Concrete is expensive.
> a bio mining tech for processing those shellfish and use the shell from them making those as the building material,
This will probably just be even more expensive.
You cannot use an iceberg for cooling in the long-term, because it will melt. Also, that wouldn't really be efficient. If you want to cool something down, you can use a refrigerator. For high-volume cooling, you can use deep ocean water from about 1000 meters down.
You should read my posts about this, you have a very distorted idea of how things work.